Dear Lok Satta,
Being a staunch supporter of Lok Satta, I am very disappointed and disheartened reading Dr JP's statement today in Eenadu Internet edition regarding the election results in Gujarat. It says that Dr JP said people voted Modi for his 'honest governance'(nijayithi paalana).
After the recent Tehelka's tapes, some evidence of Modi's involvement by commission or omission in 2002 genocide is out. Rapists and murderers are still out free even after their own confessions (actually boasting) in front of the camera. Let alone apologising, Modi actually stuck to his hard core Hindutva campaign and directly or indirectly supported the 2002 genocide.
Modi is not corrupted, Modi is very efficient, Modi has developed his state, Modi has got enormous public support, Modi was elected democratically with a great majority and SO WAS HITLER. Should I say further?
I would rather prefer my country being poor and corrupted rather than being a rich but lawless state divided by religion or caste.
Honest governance is not simply a governance without scams. It also means not denying justice to any person in the name of religion or caste. It also means rulers speaking the truth.
Is Lok Satta aiming for Modi's governance?
I hope and I know that it is not. I would be very grateful if it is made clear.
Yours Sincerely
Siva
Being a staunch supporter of Lok Satta, I am very disappointed and disheartened reading Dr JP's statement today in Eenadu Internet edition regarding the election results in Gujarat. It says that Dr JP said people voted Modi for his 'honest governance'(nijayithi paalana).
After the recent Tehelka's tapes, some evidence of Modi's involvement by commission or omission in 2002 genocide is out. Rapists and murderers are still out free even after their own confessions (actually boasting) in front of the camera. Let alone apologising, Modi actually stuck to his hard core Hindutva campaign and directly or indirectly supported the 2002 genocide.
Modi is not corrupted, Modi is very efficient, Modi has developed his state, Modi has got enormous public support, Modi was elected democratically with a great majority and SO WAS HITLER. Should I say further?
I would rather prefer my country being poor and corrupted rather than being a rich but lawless state divided by religion or caste.
Honest governance is not simply a governance without scams. It also means not denying justice to any person in the name of religion or caste. It also means rulers speaking the truth.
Is Lok Satta aiming for Modi's governance?
I hope and I know that it is not. I would be very grateful if it is made clear.
Yours Sincerely
Siva
Dr. JP's Reply
Dear Siva,
Thank you for the email. Lok Satta has no intention to support communal agenda. The 2007 Gujarat verdict bucking the usual anti-incumbency trend and several local adverse factors needs to be interpreted in a citizen-friendly manner.
Thank you for the email. Lok Satta has no intention to support communal agenda. The 2007 Gujarat verdict bucking the usual anti-incumbency trend and several local adverse factors needs to be interpreted in a citizen-friendly manner.
There can be two possible inferences of the verdict. First, hardcore Hindutva has won again. Second, it is unrelated to religious sentiments, and people responded to better delivery of services and reduced corruption. Clearly, the latter interpretation is both accurate, and is more likely to encourage parties to improve performance rather than polarize people on caste and communal lines. Such an interpretation in no way lets a government off the hook elsewhere. It merely emphasizes the importance of delivery to gain public support. The net result is a shift from communal agenda to development agenda. Clearly, genuine democratic governance and rule of law involve dignity, opportunity and justice. Lok Satta aims at all these. In today’s India, all three are at a premium and Gujarat reflects that deficit. Happily, there is no trade off between development and justice, and both need to go together. That we value development does not mean we value justice any less. Nor does it mean that poor development guarantees justice. We have to strive for both. That is our goal.
With warm regards,
Jayaprakash Narayan
With warm regards,
Jayaprakash Narayan
Dear Dr JP garu,
ReplyDeleteLet me first congratulate on your Herculean task of doing something to better/clean the Political scenario. I hope you will take this post positively.
Referring to the statements " All active members of LSP will contribute a fixed percentage of their annual income to support party activities. Lok Satta Party is determined to make tangible differences in our society and politics"
Can Dr JP explain how it is different from any other party when it wants to generate funds from age-old concept pf public contributions and compulsory contribution from active participants? If he chooses a different way to generate rather than collect one can appreciate. Does it mean the Active members of LSP should be financially sound enough to be able to contribute to party? Can that lead to a situation of highest contributor having a better say in the party? So how different is it from others? Any political party needs people to work voluntarily or contribute generously. So in what tangible way LSP wants to make the difference in the politics of India or AP? There is something about change in party elections etc but it doesn't really help to change the scenario except show or tell the public that LSP is trying to make a tangible difference.
There is some work for closure of belt shops. But how does it really help the common man since the wine shops will be present. So the problem is not lying on the belt shops but on a larger issue of prohibition. Belt shop closing helps LSP to make a public presence and popularity.
Is there any effort on the part of LSP to conduct a de-addiction camp/programme or a way to have vigilance/control on the quality of liquor, which will be more helpful to the focused public than closing the belt shops?
What is the time frame LSP fixed to produce good leaders from LSP besides JP, who can be identified with their work rather than strive on JP's name and fame.
Are the LSP leaders free of smoking and alcohol? Passive smoking is dangerous too!
I think the moderator should not moderate the posts unless they are really abusive. The moderation affects the effective brainstorming.
Ramadevi Godugula
Dear JP garu.....
ReplyDeleteYour vision in bringing corription free politics is appreciated....
LIke to know what are your plans to grow LSP as a leading party in the state????
Regards
Jagan
Looks like Ramadevi garu wants a Ramavataram for kaliyugam. And if some one wants to help the society they need sacrifice all their desires along with their family. I am not sure how familiar she is with politics, I would be really happy if she would have asked how many of LSP leaders are not corrupted or they disclose all their assets/properties now and down the road every year instead of how many are non-smoking or non-alcoholic. That would kill only the person who was having it, but where as corruption will kill the society thats where LSP is focusing on. and We are not fighting for individuals we are fighting for society.
ReplyDeleteI hope Ramadevi garu will take this reply as positive.
Dear JP garu,
ReplyDeleteI am one of your followers and really appreciate all your contributions and the way you are shaping LSP.
I agree with the views expressed by unknown user in response to Ramadevi. We have to count on how honest and clean the LSP members are, instead of worrying how many are alchoholics. There is nothing wrong in collecting funds from party members, but we need to make sure the same is not misused or spent on unnecessary events or programmes. Otherwise who will pay for the day to day functioning, election campaigns.
To correct any of these actions by members JP garu already formed a body called ombudseman which will monitor and take necessary actions against them. And members in this body will keep on changing after some period.
A greek philosopher siad, politics are for educated class otherwise we all know how the law and order, system functions in that country. India is the best example.
Lets support this man and his movement to cleanup and create corruption free society and to practice ethical politics.
dear rama devi garu,
ReplyDeletei hope you will apreciate the difference between bad people and people having bad habbits, you are not supposed to judge a person by if he is an alchoholic or a smoker or a vegitarian.
do you know adolf hitler is the most famous vegitarian a non-alchoholic and a non smoker, he lived such an austere and simple life that a british diplomat referred him as "gandhi of europe".
US president Kennedy was a womanizer,drunkrd and every thing, current president George W Bush is none of them, he also claims he talks to GOD. look what he has done.i think it is this kind of attitude which keeps good people away from politics.
we expect a politicican to be either a Gandhi or a Godse there is no middle path, it makes people think i am neither Gandhi nor Godse so plitics is not for me, and Godse's rule the roost.
Dear Dr. JP.
ReplyDeleteI was always impressed by the amount of intellect you carried and I was really happy that you did not become one of those arm chair critics and are actually attempting to act rather than just speak
I had recently watched quite a few of your addresses and particularly one of those interviews with Karan Thapar (or may be one of the other forums). where you made a comment that as special officer to VSP, you went on to realize that, to parahrase your comment, Public Enterprises are in actuality Private Enterprises of Public Officials and implied (or so I understood) that this was one of the banes of socialism. Yet, you have the following in your constitution. Are you concerned that you wont be able to sell capitalism or a variation of it and you need to resort to using the buzzword "Socialism" to allay fears of the "downtrodden"?
Lok Satta Party shall bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of India as by law established and to the principles of socialism, secularism and democracy and would uphold the sovereignty, unity and integrity of India.
I also hear the rumors that you will be part of the grand alliance with leftists and Chiranjeevi when he actually bites the bullet if you know what I mean. Is aligning with left not a self contradictory item based on your agenda?
You also refer to "Eligible for Health Cards as Tax Paying Citizens". Who pays the taxes and who is eligible? If every single Citizen is eligible, (giving you benefit of my doubt on your intentions), then what all can you achieve with about 35% taxes, particularly when we know that tax is only guaranteed by deduction at source (for Salaried inidividuals). If you are talking about taxing the earners and doling out gifts to the poor, you will lose a lot of your NRI support that you are presently attracting because they listened to your sound bites and not have actually gone and cared to read your constitution
Is infrastructure not the most important item that will actually create opportunities and raise the ability to alleviate unemployment, there by making the other items on your agenda as derivative goals rather than primary goals? All government spending should focus on facilitating employment generation and let everything else follow those results. I would have embraced you if you said for example, "We would fight for and create provisions to make this state tax free for industries - and attract a lot of businesses and create employment, so every citizen will have an opportuity to earn well to support themselves". This message is harder to sell because your voter is an indirect beneficiary of this, not a direct one
Government should not create dependency of people on government, rather it should facilitate people to rely on themselves. How do you do that? definitely not by giving free bees.Yet, thats precisely what your schemes would do.
There is a craving for this approach in India, and BJP which is supposedly a conservative party lost its way with mindless and meaningless agenda.
Yet, national health care might be the answer, but how do you pay for it? In none of the items you have on the agenda, you talk about how you want to pay for it. This is not to say that today, India is not doing better because of their inability to pay for these schemes. All I am trying to say is your agenda is much better than other National Parties. However, you your plans appear to be one line slogans and not explained in detail or how you will pay for them. One thing People in India are not used to is ask a tough question - Where is the money coming from? - They like free lunches or they are used to getting one. Or they just dont care. And you are not taking the responsibility to educate them because it will not suite your one line slogans.
I started to email you basically to understand how I can support your movement apart from the monetary contributions after being impressed by your lectures on you tube. Then I went to your website and came back with a lot more questions than I had originally.
I also did not understand why you are trying to base the membership fees on the income some one earns. If people have confidence in your ability and believe in your goals, they will make campaign contributions apart from membership fees. You can actually solicit them. When I looked at my paycheck and figured out what the cost of membership fee is, I got put off by it. I was probably going to make that kind of contribution as what it should be "a contribution" but not as a "fee"
Your intentions sound good, but they are not well explained as to how you would reach those goals. How does that make you different from any other party on earth? If you are not different, then why should I care? I must say that there are a few things I liked, particulary you showing that last year you saved 46+ lacs on operations. That tells that you are prudent, but nothing beyond.
Thanks and Regards
Subash