Saturday, July 29, 2006

Magnanimity for the millions on the margins?

Dear friends,
The spate of brutal killings of Salva Judem members by Maoists in Chattisgarh and encounter deaths of Maoists in Andhra Pradesh expose the fault lines of our society and polity. These are not acts of violence inspired by extra-territorial terrorist agencies to destabilize our nation.

These Maoists are the products of anguish, despair and bitterness resulting from decades of misgovernance and an economic growth process which relegates millions to the margins. The causes are internal and rooted in the alienation of large segments of population on account of denial of opportunities and elementary justice.

Organized violence of all kinds undermines economic growth, destabilizes the society and weakens the nation. However, ideological violence can only be eliminated by addressing the causes of alienation and bitterness, even as the assaults against the constitutional order are firmly repelled. Mere counter-violence and intelligence may deplete Maoists for the time being. But as long as the underlying causes are not addressed, more and more disenchanted citizens are likely to take to the gun to fight the injustices of the system, however misplaced their methods are.

Centuries of vertical fragmentation and social hierarchies led to unimaginable misery and denial of justice and opportunity. The social movements that accompanied freedom struggle gave some semblance of hope to the oppressed sections. The work of Mahatma Jyotiba Phule in Western India, Narayana Guru's remarkable efforts to liberate Ejhavas in Kerala from caste oppression, and Ramaswamy Naicker's Self Respect Movement are three noteworthy examples of such social mobilization for inclusion of sections which were hitherto on the margins of Indian society. The leadership and intellectual vigour of Babasaheb Ambedkar gave a new meaning to the quest for equality and justice, and made it an integral part of our constitutional order.

Sadly, independent India witnessed the decline of social movements. Simultaneously, the political commitment for the inclusions of Dalits and oppressed segments in the mainstream society has been symbolic at best. Issues of real empowerment have been neglected, and politics of tokenism have become the norm. If India pursued robust policies for human development and rapid economic growth, the situation might have significantly improved by now. But excessive state control led to politics of patronage and rent-seeking, and depressed economic growth. Politics of tokenism became a substitute to genuine empowerment and human development. The result is the extremely uneven growth process, and exclusion of large sections of population from the benefits of self government.

Ideally, economic liberalization, competition and the unleashing of the entrepreneurial potential should help bridge the social divide. As skills and capacity for participation in wealth creation determine social mobility, birth and patronage should cease to matter. But tragically, the Indian state did not create conditions for such social mobility. India never created conditions for human development of the disadvantaged sections. The limited educational opportunities created in the early decades after freedom benefited the upper castes, and created a sizeable body of people with skills, knowledge and entrepreneurship. But the Dalits and other disadvantaged sections were largely denied the fruits of education and development. Over the past three decades, the unmet demand led to growth of private education, and state institutions declined. The poor too started sending children to private schools, adding to their financial burden. But much of private education too is sub-standard. As a result, most of the poor children never fulfil their potential, despite the genetic endowment.

Today, the future of nearly 70% of children can be predicted with reasonable certainty on the basis of conditions at birth - caste, literacy level of parents and income. The bulk of the children have no opportunities for vertical mobility. Near collapse of public health systems and low level of skills even if some smattering of education is imparted have further compounded the misery of the poor. Ubiquitous corruption, over-centralization, oppressive state machinery, and failure of rule of law broke the backs of the poor already groaning under social inequity. Discrimination by birth is thus institutionalized, despite a liberal constitution and democratic trappings. Justice is denied to most of the people, and law applied to different people in different ways. Dominance of money and muscle power in elections made politics a huge part of the problem, not the solution.

It is these cruel circumstances which breed anger, alienation and violence. If we do not address these fundamental issues, violence will undo all fruits of freedom and economic growth. And growth itself will be stunted because of violence, and non-participation of the bulk of the people in wealth creation. As the illiterate eke out a precarious livelihood through drudgery, the 'educated' are unemployed for want of skills.

This spiral of violence can be reversed only if we focus on education, healthcare and skill promotion. All parties claim to be committed to these worthy goals. But for these fruits to reach the poor, we need to redefine politics. Politics as business should give way to politics revolving round the people's lives and empowerment. The oppressed sections which depend on the state for education and healthcare must be enabled to truly participate in politics and decision making. Total decentralization of power, comprehensive political reforms to restore the spirit of service to politics, and radical reforms of the police and the justice system to ensure swift and real justice to all sections must be integral to the new political culture.

As Martin Luther king said, "the silence of good men is far more dangerous than the brutality of bad men." The thinking sections need to mobilize the people whose future is at stake, and act now.

What is your take on this issue? I look forward to hearing from you all!

20 comments:

  1. Perhaps some of these Maoists leaders might be those silent good men who turned violent. However I really wonder what the present Maoist leaders think of themselves and their effect on society. How long they can wander in their delusions? Do they see an end point for their struggle? I really want to speak to one.

    We definitely need to address the root causes, which is a longer process. However should we not think of short term solutions to keep the law and order? How can a person take a gun if it is not available to him? Our governments played a ‘great’ role in denying the opportunities of these people for years. Now, can’t they devoid them of one more option i.e. the Maoist path? I don’t know the practical problems in achieving it. Only issue I can remind of is the demise of the Khalistan movement by force. The people who took violent path are criminals and they need to be brought to justice, not to the guest houses for discussions.

    Coming to the permanent solutions; Class system exists perhaps everywhere in the world. Children of many working class people in UK do not make it to the universities. They attend substandard state schools, they are forced by their parents to survive on their own by 16 and they cannot afford the high university fees. I have even seen child labour (under 14) at times. And there are class differences in the social interactions of the people. The accent, language and behaviour differ among the classes and reveal their identities to each other. People usually get married within their social class only. However, every citizen has free access to high standard health care and unemployment benefits. Moreover, any citizen can keep their head up even in front of the Queen irrespective of their class. Perhaps as long as the basic necessities i.e. job, basic education, health care, and self respect are fulfilled, man does not mind/complain much about the class differences. He may complain but not to the extent to lead to violent revolutions. That’s how the West kept the Communism at bay; By providing the basic amenities to all people.

    In India the class differences and caste system may take centuries more to go completely. After all they have been existent for thousands of years. And yes…the true social movements need great leaders with saintliness like Gandhi. However, providing the basic amenities to working class seems to be the way ahead for now. I hope there will be some ‘spill over’ of this rapid economic growth on these sections of people. However, education and skills development are the key issues to be addressed immediately. Somebody was saying recently about their China visit. People in villages are poor but they are skilled and so they survive.

    I hope to see soon the day when all Western market’s Chinese goods are replaced with Indian goods, when the working class in my village go to factories rather than to farms, when the farms are collectively managed using advanced technology, when there is social security for every citizen, when there is opportunity to grow out of the class barrier and above all when the human rights are protected. This is not really a lot to ask for. And it is very possible. It is all in our hands. Let us work together. We have now leaders like JP to look forward.

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  2. First I should apprecite Siva Reddy for such an inspiring narration.
    I am very happy to see the announcement by JP yesterday.It a Welcome call to the future India.I strongly believe Change is imminent in this World.In the stone age period people used to lead the life as they like it.There was no languages,rules,anything....
    ...Man learnt many things.....Kingdom Period# here people who are strong enough used to rule the [Weaker]people.There were no boundaries,any one can rule anywhere.In this period there was no security for the ordinary People..If the ruler or king is good , everthing is fine ..otherwise people life will be hell.They have to pay whatever tax they impose,do whatever they wish,otherwise 'will be punished'....This sort of tradition ruled the world for quite a long peiod....Foreign Invaders ......Finally We got independence....Democracy was established...Specific Boundaries were drawn,People are comapritively secure now,they can lead their lives as they wish,Courts were formed for justice,Constitution was written setting the rules of the Game as "By the people , for the people ..".Years Passed , now the people started using the loop holes in the Constitution ...

    Now a change has to happen,the rules of the Game has to be changed.History says Change is imminent in this World.No force can stop this.In this scenario,call from JP is a welcome note.I strongly believe many people have already welcomed this from inside.What we need to do is to let it come outside and express it in some form or other.If we put some effort it is for sure going to happen.
    I am ready to place my effort.

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  3. Dear Mr. Reddy,
    I thank you for your comments. For the sake of our country, I hope that no silent good man equates taking up arms to making his voice heard! This is definitely not the right thing to do. There are many non-violent, effective and lawful ways for the good citizens who are silent today to express themselves and work to bring about a transformation in the country.

    As you aptly pointed out, a free society cannot survive without peace and order. Therefore we need to do whatever it takes to contain violence. And in addition, we need to focus on reasonable opportunities for all. Perfect equality is a utopian ideal at best. There will always be differences between people. But what we can strive for and what is achievable is a basic minimum standard of opportunities for growth, prosperity and dignity. Realistic opportunities are both vital and feasible to give hope and ensure peace.

    We share your dream of a prosperous and strong India, where every Indian, no matter what his economic or social status, lives a life of dignity and security and can look forward to vertical mobility and success which is perfectly proportional to his qualifications, skills and effort.

    This vision is achievable during our own lifetime. Let us get to work!


    Dear Mr.Goalla,
    As you rightly said, change is imminent. The change we are working for will come about shortly. Optimism is our greatest ally and pessimism a temporary hindrance. Never give up hope! When we lose hope we lose everything. We are not just hopeful but we are supremely confident that change will come about.

    We have been overwhelmed by the positive response to our work. This is all we need. We are with you and you are with us. Together there is no obstacle that we can’t overcome.

    Thank you for your encouragement.

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  4. Dear Mr Jayaprakash Narayan, I have studied the first issue of your magazine, VoteIndia, Vol.1 Issue 1. Have also been through parts of the Lok Satta website.

    The reforms being suggested by you seem very good. The PR system you have written about mirrors the one operating in Germany since the second WW. Since their system between the wars had failed them, they gave it a long hard look and come up with what you are recommending for India. The main difference you are suggesting, albeit a small one, is that the threshold be at 10% instead of the German 5%.

    I am personally in full agreement with what you have suggested. My question is: how do you (and others like you and me) propose to get these changes made in our electoral system? The first hurdle is to convince a large segment of the opinion makers, and then to make our parliament adopt them. How are you going about achieving this? Websites and blogs are very good for communicating, but I found that you have roughly just one visitor per day to the sites! So what is the real way to move towards change?

    The other point I wanted to make is that the importance of state funding of elections has not been accepted by you. That will not solve the problem -- it is a precondition to reducing the venality of politics as we see it today. Perhaps it is an even hotter potato than Proportional Representation, and that is why it has not been taken up with the same enthusiasm as PR.

    I have not thought about the direct election of the state level head of government as yet. Shall do so and perhaps give my comments if they are worth making.

    Kind regards, Vikram Lal, Common Cause, New Delhi

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  5. JP,

    Why does the leader of a Political party in AP, be it Cong, TDP, CPM,BJP always be a reddy or a kamma. Why is that all govt.offices, contracts, businesses are always in hands of these two. Knowing that you are being setup to form a party to ride over naidu, what difference can you make JP, except another leader ready to fleece people, this time the intelligentsia..

    Can you fight devoid of your caste. You cant. you are depending on your caste people alone to survive. So much for your integrity and impeachability. I admired you all these years till i found your true colors. you are just another politician JP, not a Honest one.

    regards,
    Mahesh, AP.

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  6. Dear Mahesh,

    Very sad to see personal attacks on a person who seems to be a ray of hope in the present appalling political situation.

    What we need is constructive criticism and rational discussion rather than developing prejudices and jumping to conclusions. I don’t know what you knew but let me make some remarks.

    Caste system has been there for centuries. If it was say 100 years ago, you would have asked why every power was in the hands of Brahmins? And do you know to which caste most of the leaders who worked to abolish the caste differences and untouchability belong to? Brahmins again. 60 years ago most of Telangana was in hands of a few Reddy Feudal lords. And do you know to which caste most of the leaders who managed to diminish the Feudal power over these years belong to? Reddys again.
    And interestingly all the present upper castes were Sudras (4th tier) and so lower castes at one time.

    These are just examples and my point is let us not stereotype people based on their caste or creed. Let us grow up. Now it is all power play. Power is in the hands of those who have money and the caste became a means to retain that power (lobbying, favouritism, vote banks). This holds true for all castes upper and lower. Of course loser is the common man.

    If you work for a good cause at your home place, naturally you will get support from your friends and relatives. Unfortunately most of your relatives will happen to be from your caste. Should you need to reject their help to prove that you are beyond caste? As long as your conscience is clear, you will be able to make a line between working together and favouritism. Many people from Vysya community helped Gandhi throughout his political life. That did not stop him or made him ineligible from working for the downtrodden and from being acclaimed as father of our nation

    So, let us work together if we want to make a change. For that clearly what we need is to win over our prejudices and cynicism first.

    Best regards
    Siva Reddy

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  7. Dear Mr.Siva Reddy,

    I will wait to see if jp's party is devoid of the same malaise which both cong and tdp are filled up.

    I am a double M.A in Indian History and have keen interest in the current political scenario and am well aware of all the dynamics.

    If everything were as rosy as you put to be, the Advocate General of this country wouldnt have made the suggestion that Non-Kamma, Non-Reddy judgse should be given place in AP's highcourts.

    Gandhi was beyond caste and stood for an Ideal. He was the HOPE for an oppression shared by many. As such, his caste came secondary. I pity your statement about the gupta community's support for GANDHI. Please go through your HISTORY books sir once again.

    This is teh main problem mr.reddy. PEOPLE who do not understand HISTORY are given impt. roles to CHANGE and thats why they backfire.



    Today, the scenario is much different. Yes, all of us want change, no doubt,since all of us are sick and tired of nincompoops who treat politics as the way to making money. But the change needs to come from more fundamental changs, than a few intelligentsia coming together.

    everyone in this state knows that JP is the blue eyed boy of Ramoji Rao and that without the Kingmaker's permission, nothing happens in this state. When the dynamics are so clear, you attribute my criticism to personal remarks. Strange, so strange, especially when you look at the composition of most of the people who are flocking to Loksatta or are already there.

    Correct me mr.reddy if after the Loksatta party is formed, MERIT will be again given second FIDDLE to caste. till then, kindly reserve your remarks for me.

    Aristotle said "Give me a lever long enough, and I shall move the world". Change is not hard, but it needs to be brought by the right leader and have the right team members. If the leader can communicate his neutral status, masses will follow like they did with GANDHI. Gandhi gave them a cause to fight for. Today's politicians have nothing to fight for, except filling their own bellies. So how different are JP'
    s flowery words of change?

    I am not asking you to convince me, mr.reddy for i am just another voter, but tell me after the party is formed and the bearers are announced if i am wrong. JP is no different.

    You are right in saying that one shouldnt reject one's caste's help when offered, but making that the ONLY CRITERIA FOR MERIT makes all the difference. KAMMAS as a STRONG caste emerged only after NTR was propped up by the KINGMAKER. You are talking of caste equality. SHOW ME ONE ORGANIZATION IN THIS STATE WHICH DOESNT HAVE A REDDY OR KAMMA. EVEN Hindu Temples like TTD are given to CHRISTIANS because one Overzealous christian rules the state and whose family goes on destroying hindu faith because of his promise to the italian lady who in turn promised the roman pontiff that she will do HER BEST.

    If support is only criteria, then why are your people put even in places where YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW THE ABCD'S. a KAMMA or REDDY even without minimal education is easily made RTC chairman or TTD chairman or EO's of the several hundred temples across teh state depending on who is in POWER. WHY??? Just because he has made a few murders for you, eliminated opponents, you appoint a CHRISTIAN as TTD INCHARGE. what kind of rule is this and YET to be POLITICALLY correct, you and OTHER parties will not even talk about it because it is one of your own, reddy or kamma, doesnt make any difference.

    Change needs to be inherent sir and if JP has to be that CHANGE, he needs to demonstrate that he is a LEADER beyond caste and not with it like you have pointed out.

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  8. Dear Friends,
    We apologise for the lack of response from Dr.JP to your posts.

    As you probably know,he is on a whirlwind district wise tour before the launch of the Lok Satta Party.At present he is in Bangladesh and will be back shortly to continue his tour.

    We assure you that he will find the posts most interesting and will post his responses as soon as possible.

    Do keep posting your comments.

    Lok Satta

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  9. Dear Mr. Mahesh,

    I appreciate your concerns. I respect your opinions though I may not agree with some of them. I might not have read as much history as you read. However my point is simple and straight forward. There are good people and bad people in each and every creed and caste. One should not stereotype people based on their caste or creed. We do not need much history to assert this truth.

    Unfortunately in the last but one paragraph of your response, you used the words such as ‘your people’ and ‘your own’. You seemed to have assumed even without knowing my identity that I was talking on behalf of a particular creed or caste. I refer to this sort of attitude when I say ‘stereotyping’. Such premature assumptions can compromise the credibility of your other opinions and assertions. I wish you would see me in future as a fellow human being and not as a reddy or as a hindu.

    I know that I am beyond caste and I do not need to prove anybody because I am just an ordinary voter like you. I thought our discussion would go further in this direction asking “whether ‘the leader’ needs to keep the people from his own caste away to prove that he/she is beyond caste?” In other words does the leader need to show negative preferentialism rather than non-preferentialism? But you seem to have already formed an opinion that there is preferentialism in Lok Satta. In that case there is no point in further discussion and time may reveal whatever the truth is.

    You rightly pointed out how some rich kammas and reddys have been retaining power by preferentialism in the present and past administrations. But one should also keep in mind about some rich leaders of other castes who are doing the same thing as much as they can and about the ordinary kammas and reddys who are the losers as much as the people of other castes. Caste became a medium for the powermongers to thrive on. What we need at this juncture is not the caste wars but a war against caste.

    Personally I do not want to wait for another Gandhi for a lifetime and get disappointed rather I would like to explore Gandhis in the people around me. All people are not great but all people are not that bad either. We certainly need loads of optimism at this juncture. The question is not whether we are going to achieve something at the end but it is whether we are fighting for it not.

    Best Regards
    Siva Reddy

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  10. Dear Vikram,
    Thank you for your opinion.Lok Satta,as an NGO,has tried its level best to try and convince the powers that be, the opinion makers and the public at large.There is none who disagrees with us on the need for a P.R. system.

    At the highest levels of government,we were within a whisker of obtaining a decision to change the system.At the last moment,someone somewhere lost their nerve and the decision to change to P.R. was dropped.

    It is precisely for this reason that the decision to form the Lok Satta Political Party was made.Through sustained campaigning and through a direct posing of an electoral challenge we hope to bring about this change.Eventually,the major political parties will adopt this method as it is in their interest,if they want to survive at the National Level.This is a rare case of what is good for the nation being good for the political parties.

    Please click on the following link for an article on State Funding.
    http://www.loksatta.org/fexp23dec05.htm

    -On behalf of DR.JP-

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  11. Dear friends,
    None of us decides whom we are born to.Unfortunately, we are categorised as belonging to X or Y or Z caste,community and religion depending to which family we are born in.

    What is required is that the ruling class possesses all the necessary skills and the moral authority to rule.What is also required is a political system which is open to all and a societal environment which provides everyone reasonable opportunities for vertical mobility.

    Why X or Y community is dominant,or why someone is rich or why someone is poor,is something for all of us to think about.

    Lok Satta Party hopes to prove, through its actions, to all,that it is possible to achieve all that we set ought to do,and to do it in a way that is lawfully and morally right.

    Ultimately,deeds are all that matter.Watch and guage us objectively,and come to your own conclusions.

    LOK SATTA PARTY
    On Dr.JP's behalf

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  12. Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high;
    Where knowledge is free;
    Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow domestic walls;
    Where words come out from the depth of truth;
    Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection;
    Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit;
    Where the mind is led forward by Thee to ever-widening thought and action
    Into that heaven of freedom, my father, let my country awake.


    by Rabindranath Tagore

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  13. Dear Anonymous,
    Thank you for posting this great piece by Shri Tagore.

    Let us all work toward this great awakening.

    With warm wishes
    LOK SATTA PARTY

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  14. Dear Dr. JP,

    Welcome sir. There is a proverb 'A good man is hard to find'. I believe we found one.

    John Quincy Adams:

    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader


    Good luck leader.

    Warm wishes,
    Anonymous

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  15. Mr. Mahesh,
    Please do not start personal attack on any one. Let us follow minimum ethics . As long as you want to discuss the caste you already have many parties with the agenda . As I understand it is not Loksatta’s main agenda and I wish Loksatta stick to its agenda. Primary health and Primary Education . These issues take priority oven any issues and it’s the job of everyone to see that Health and education are available even in the remote villages.
    I believe Change is possible and JP is definitely one person anyone can look at for this change. If we can help that is great if we cannot help atleast let us not become obstacles for the path.
    I wish Loksatta all the best .
    Thanks

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  16. AnonymousJuly 26, 2007

    Dear jp garu,


    i am vijay studying MS in pune basically from ap.i am very happy that loksatt had finally setup their political party.i have been watching ur prathidvani in Etv right from my 12 th. i feel so much influential when u speak of a true nation with ethics in it ..but as of todays poltical scenario ethical politics mean nothing to our leaders ..for instance in AP it self we have been seeing congress creating insecure feeling to the people..i mean threat of life ..one doest know whether his land is safe or evn his life is safe ..i personally feel it was much better in previous governement ..i can see my neighbours who are governement employees runnig here and ther often because they have been ordered some work. and inspection by CM him self may be at any time. That was when i felt some thing is changing in my state too..i cant say that previous governement was 100%suceeded ...their are some flaws int hose too..coming to lok satta i have some dobts regarding some issuse..
    --->how would the party survive with out funds?
    --->and if u want to strengthen the party by having more support from the educated ..why not the party organise some events through college students so that they can become true leaders for future ..
    -->i may not be a person who can give u suggestion but i have some thoughts like make students think about politics ...whats happening to their locality..organise more evnts with support from students ..like memberships at low cost and guiding them how to get information from govenement offices as now right of information is allowed to very one .......i personally feel loksatta can be made strong only through students...i am great fan of u sir

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  17. AnonymousJuly 26, 2007

    Dear jp garu,


    i am vijay studying MS in pune basically from ap.i am very happy that loksatt had finally setup their political party.i have been watching ur prathidvani in Etv right from my 12 th. i feel so much influential when u speak of a true nation with ethics in it ..but as of todays poltical scenario ethical politics mean nothing to our leaders ..for instance in AP it self we have been seeing congress creating insecure feeling to the people..i mean threat of life ..one doest know whether his land is safe or evn his life is safe ..i personally feel it was much better in previous governement ..i can see my neighbours who are governement employees runnig here and ther often because they have been ordered some work. and inspection by CM him self may be at any time. That was when i felt some thing is changing in my state too..i cant say that previous governement was 100%suceeded ...their are some flaws int hose too..coming to lok satta i have some dobts regarding some issuse..
    --->how would the party survive with out funds?
    --->and if u want to strengthen the party by having more support from the educated ..why not the party organise some events through college students so that they can become true leaders for future ..
    -->i may not be a person who can give u suggestion but i have some thoughts like make students think about politics ...whats happening to their locality..organise more evnts with support from students ..like memberships at low cost and guiding them how to get information from govenement offices as now right of information is allowed to very one .......i personally feel loksatta can be made strong only through students...i am great fan of u sir

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  18. Dear jp garu,

    I feel that Lok satta party was setup but there is no awareness for the people regarding this party.even though the party office is ther in my native Tenali..iwas unable to know that ther is party office for loksatta untill i searched for it one day.I fell that only having party officces in regional areas with no active involvement in events will make the party one more BJP in AP.Sir i think we must catch the younger generation to change the society..if we make them think the way we think by letting them know what can be acheieved by little bit of effort from them..its the younger that can change the mind set of the older generation ..only one person cant change the whole society ..so make them think sir ...i think 12 th standard is the time when they decide what to become in life. so activating them politically at that time makes them feel responsible for this country...waiting for your reply sir

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  19. Dear JP garu,

    I saw your discussion with kirankumar reddy on tv 9.I agree with your argument that definitely primary health centers need to be updated but at the same time we need to develop tertiary hospitals also.if we look at the most advanced country USA even in rural centers you will find cathlab which is a coroprate facilty in INDIA.prevention is better than cure but who will take care of those who already suffered the prevention failure.you are asking to prevent tomorrows disease but what about todays sufferer.We need to give equal importance. Another point is you said about MMR, How much percentage of congenital heart diseases are due to RUBELLA.who will get benefited from rubella vaccine . One must check ab titers she should not be vaccinated if pregnanat and till 1 month after pregnancy.Those who already contracted will be immune lifelong .So to test you need a good lab so just giving vaccination will not serve the purpose.and also most common congenital heart diseases are due to genetical and to test gene abnormailty u need antenatal counseling and testing.can we imagine these tests in phcs,No you need sofisticated labs.So we need to upgrade those facilities from grassroot level.Can we do that at a time.Just allocating budeget is enough to do all thses things.Till you develop all this what to do with those who have suffered previous govt mistakes.I have seen so many kids who suffered these problems but got benefited to some extent atleast in recent yrs.I dont say that we can forget commonailments but we should not neglect uncommon but killer diseases. Including common ailments in budget is always welcoming but we should not neglect dreadful diseases which we feel are lesscommon but contradictory to your statemnet cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death in India .You can refer this in queens georgia univ study conducted recently,Chronic diseases now a leading cause of death in rural India�mortality data from...
    Joshi et al. Int. J. Epidemiol..2006; 35: 1522-1529
    .Surprisingly it is also more common in rural indians.So heart problems stroke etc are not rare diseases.One of the leading causes of death in rural India is oral cancer and tobacco related cancers. India has one of the highest rates of oral cancer in the world. Tobacco-related cancers account for about 50 per cent of all cancers among men and 25 per cent among women. Oral cancer accounts for one-third of the total cancer cases, with 90 per cent of the patients being tobacco-chewers.We are all aware that HTN Diabetes will be the killer diseases with CVD as cause of death.So one should not neglect killer diseases .Finally even a single life is invaluable how many crores can give that satisfaction that we saved a life.If we stop taking corporate hospitals help we 'll save money but it would be wasted completely by means of developing ac rooms ,glittering floors foam beds for hospital staff etc etc we have satisfaction that at least some people got quality treatment.I know that there are so many doctors in GGH who doesnt know even to interpret EKG then how come we rely on these for complicated surgeries so till we get a revolution and talented people get equal chances in govt sector it would be better to rely on cororate hospitals at least for some techinical need.Thanking you
    Dr.subrahmanyam M.D

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  20. Dear JP,
    The success of any business organization,political party or any public entity depends upon strength and direction. 1.) Direction comes from determination,intelligence and experience. This is generally a package available from the older lot and those who have come of age.It can be you and like minded elders with whom you have to be associated with.
    2.)Strength comes from eagerness,youth and numbers. This generally is found largely in the younger lot. If you can positively influence and mend the minds of these people then they will strive for what you aspired. This is an untapped potential in the country likewise AP.

    If you have these two then you almost will have success at your doorstep. Example of such organizations: Infosys, IITs.

    You also need to have funds to make your voice heard and make the younger generation put on their thinking caps.Being an experienced person and an IAS officer you will have to figure this one out.This is a setup cost which can sustain itself once the movement is ignited.

    For those people who are much concerned about the caste equations,let me ask you one question "if you have extra money would you not try to invest the money which can bring back more money? If you know some info which is useful to the small number of people who uses it first whom would you tell the info to? a complete stranger? or a family member/relative?".
    People of some communities worked hard in the past and now enjoying their fruits.Politics requires money and if some communities have wealth and willing to join politics why cant they? Why should they restrain themselves? If some communities have economic power then why should they oblige you and restrain themselves from using it? Why should they at all care about what you think?

    The point here to discuss is that some people have gone overboard and enjoying fruits at the expense of others and what steps should be taken to prevent them misuse their wealth. So the ones who are advocating that certain castes have unfair advantage over others should keep in mind that what you call 'dominant' castes even when combined are still in minority in numbers. Numbers are all that matters in politics. Two poor people votes are greater than one rich person's vote.So there is a lot of hope to topple govts if they misuse their power.

    So JP all the best for your and our future of our AP.

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